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Mexican Nationals Trapped in Utah Mine Collapse

by rcs1

There's lots of coverage:  If you've had your TV on, you couldn't miss Robert Murray, the mine president, making his peculiar statements.  He's understandably distressed:  even if he doesn't care about the miners, he'll see the family-owned company's profits take a nose dive.  RenaRF wrote a good diary on Daily Kos about how strange he is:  that and about all his Republican campaign donations.

And he keeps talking about the collapse being caused by the seismic activity, rather than vice versa.  Nevermind that the evidence doesn't fit his version of the story.  Me, I'm inclined towards the evidence, and so this from the New York Times yesterday is disheartening news:

Efforts to reach six trapped coal miners came to a crawl on Tuesday as continued seismic activity forced out rescue teams, and drilling equipment began slowly chewing through thousands of feet of rock to where the men were working early Monday when parts of the mountain shook and fell.

Deep underground, the mine is continuing to collapse.

Cross-posted at Daily Kos


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If you're interested in mine safety aspects of this story, check out CTMET's diary about that.  Regarding the initial incident, again NYT:
Scientists at the University of Utah had initially reported the Crandall Canyon event as a 3.9-magnitude earthquake but have said since that the pattern was more consistent with a structural collapse inside the mine.

Computer models that suggest earthquake epicenters are approximate, and mining activity was within the margin of error, said Relu Burlacu, a seismologist at the university. Perhaps even more important, Mr. Burlacu said, a naturally occurring quake would probably have produced two seismic spikes -- an initial one followed by the resulting mine collapse. Only one spike was recorded.

We're also told that this kind of mining, retreat mining, is particularly dangerous.  But Mr. Murray's as adamant on that point as on the "earthquake".  USA Today yesterday:

Also in dispute were the conditions inside the mine at the time. Murray angrily denied that a method called "retreat mining" was taking place at the time.

In that method, pillars of coal are used to hold up an area of the mine's roof. When that area is completely mined, pillars are pulled to get access to useful coal, causing an intentional collapse. Experts say it is one of the most dangerous mining methods.

Today's Salt Lake City Tribune calls that into question, and the whole article's worth a look for its description of the various mining procedures at play in this mine:

Despite Bob Murray's loud denials, his company is on record with the Utah Geological Survey that removing pillar supports has been going on in his Crandall Canyon mine since 2005 - under the former owners as well as under Murray.  Michael Vanden Berg, who writes the annual coal report for the Utah Geological Survey, said Tuesday that when he visited the Crandall Canyon mine in February while preparing the 2007 report, mine operators told him they would be "pulling pillars" with a continuous mining machine in the Hiawatha coal seam for the next few years.

While the report doesn't prove this type of "retreat" mining caused the collapse that trapped six men in Emery County, it does suggest that the company has yet to paint a complete picture of the type of work being done in the mine.  During a contentious news conference Tuesday, Murray insisted the miners had not been removing the coal pillars, a common but hazardous type of retreat mining that occurs as a mine plays out.

Murray seems to have been taking lessons from the Alberto Gonzales school of public relations.

Meanwhile, there's varying reports about the miners themselves.  Rachel Maddow got me thinking about that on Air America yesterday, saying that none of the trapped miners spoke English, and that their families were being sequestered away from the press.  Implied:  They're "illegals", and that's being covered up.  From the Deseret News in Utah:

Meanwhile, Utah Gov. Jon Huntsman Jr. flew to Emery County to meet with families of the miners today. They were being kept at an undisclosed location in Huntington, awaiting any new developments.

Robert Murray, the mine company president, says they don't want to be bothered by the press.  That's believable.  New York Times reports 3 Hispanic and 3 "mixed European ancestry" miners.  Deseret News?

The men's identities have not been released, although officials said there were four Hispanic workers and two Caucasian employees of varying ages.

And, according to USA Today:

Only one of the miners has been identified. Mexico's consul in Salt Lake City, Salvador Jimenez, said three of the men are Mexican citizens.
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Relatives of the miners waited for news at a nearby senior center. Many of the family members don't speak English, so Huntington Mayor Hilary Gordon hugged them, put her hands over her heart and then clasped them together to let them know she was praying for them, she said.

Apparently, if USA Today is to be believed, Jimenez was unsuccessful in efforts to contact the families.  He's not press, and normal diplomatic protocol would dicate that he should have gotten the opportunity to meet with the family members.  Utah's Governor got to see them.  Maybe Rachel Maddow's on to something.  It does seem like there's aspects of this story yet to be brought to light.

Just up from the Los Angeles Times, dated Thursday 8/9:

Some family members began to voice frustration with the slow rescue operation. The company has rented the local junior high school and secluded relatives there. Murray has advised them not to speak to reporters, and sheriff's deputies are guarding the building.

Maria Buenrostro, whose brother Manuel Sanchez is one of the trapped miners, told the Associated Press that Murray got angry with relatives' questions and walked out of a meeting. She added that there was no interpreter provided for three Spanish-speaking families.

"We want the truth; that's all we want," said Buenrostro. "If there's nothing that they can do about it, you know, just tell us so we know what to expect when they bring them out."

From Harper's Index, August 2007 (read on the plane to Chicago):

Number of the forty-seven Mexican consulates in cities across America that have opened since 1980: 42

I'm guessing that Salt Lake City office is one of 'em.  The consulate estimates 160-170,000 Mexican nationals live in Utah.

Before this is over we may - or may not - find some illegal immigration-related issues pulled into this story.  Some people are up in arms about illegals from Mexico over essentially racist reasons.  I'd put Pat Buchanan squarely in that camp, for example.  But there's other workplace issues:  which can be seen pretty clearly in the "guest worker" programs in the Marianas Islands, for example.  (See dengre's DK diaries for more on that.)

Meanwhile, Murray might be worried because the top choice in a recent Pew poll on immigration issues came out with prosecute the employers who hire illegals as the top "action item" for the government.  On top of everything else, he just might become the poster boy for employers hiring "illegals".  Time will tell on that one.  And this story may show that our current situation with a shadowy underclass of "illegal" workers is bad for everyone but the owners.  If this one ends up in jail, I won't lose any sleep over it.

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is at the the other 18 mines? Let alone his employment practices..........

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070809/ap_on_re_us/utah_mine_collapse
excerpt:

Murray's company has 19 mines in five states that vary widely in the number of fines, citations and injuries, according to an Associated Press review of federal Mine Safety and Health Administration records.


by avahome on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 06:55:11 AM EST
This one, anyhow.  Legacy from the previous owners.  Here's something I wonder:  Does this company specialize in "retreat mining"?  Because it did take over this mine just as that phase was starting up.

by Land of Enchantment on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 10:00:26 AM EST
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I hate to break away from the thrust of your story, that there are Mexican nationals trapped in this mine that were working for Robert Murray, but this is the first time I've heard it stated that the mine collapse caused the seismic monitors to record an "earthquake".

I am still hearing "earthquake caused the mine collapse" in the MSM. How can we get them to report otherwise? Will they shift the focus to the workers being used to perform a dangerous type of mining, of which the accompanying forced collapse cause earthquake sensors to register; or, will they continue to report the Mining lobby's version of the story?
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by wanderindiana on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 09:28:56 AM EST

I've seen a couple of TV reports discussing "earthquake vs. collapse" for the initial event, and several papers have covered it.  Murray's acting erratically enough that I actually think he's calling attention to it at this point.  And, like I mentioned, Rachel Maddow's on it.  But overall, the broadcast media have been shoddy in their coverage.  How hard can it be to take a statement from the Mexican embassy for example, maybe shoot some video of the sheriff's deputies "guarding" the families.

Meanwhile, the mine owner orders they be sequestered, and the building is guarded by law enforcement?  What's that about?  I'm kinda wondering if Lou Dobbs (whose demogoguery I normally can't stand to watch) is gonna get on this story.  He keeps yelling about going after the employers:  This one's becoming a fish in a barrel, so to speak.

Meanwhile since the initial event, it's been "seismic activity" that made the rescue workers pull back.  Probably a generic term that can describe collapse, too.  But at best misleading.  Sloppy, sloppy work.

by Land of Enchantment on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 10:10:44 AM EST
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I did a quick Lexis search and found one result from 1999 that connected Murray with retreat mining (out of 476 results on "retreat mining" alone):

Platts Coal Outlook
January 18, 1999

The Pennsylvania Turnpike Commission and coal operator Robert Murray have nearly ended a fight involving Murray's Maple Creek mine in Washington County, Pa.

The commission wants to build a highway extension called the Mon-Fayette Expressway right over some of the Maple Creek property (CO 10/12/98, 10/27/97). Murray had filed suit to stop that plan, saying it would collapse mine works and rob him of some of his coal reserves and part of his slurry impoundment area.

[snip]

Murray would not be able to do any retreat mining in that area. He had done longwall mining there over the last couple of years and would lose very little longwall-able coal.

[snip]

Now that came from Platts, an energy-related news source. I am having trouble getting their search function to produce good results focusing in on Murray and retreat mining (or pillaring). I'd guess, however, that this is a common practice, and since Murray does own many mining operations, he's a longtime practitioner.

It's worth restating the the US Dept. of Labor's Mine Safety and Health Administration has focused this year on the dangers of retreat mining, and in March Kentucky passed a mine safety law that requires mining operations give state regulators 48 hour notice before doing "retreat mining" so they can ensure all miners/personnel involved in the operation have been properly trained.

You've gotta wonder if those Mexican nationals received such proper training as Kentucky now requires.
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by wanderindiana on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 10:34:23 AM EST
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If we generate several e-mails to them with links to the post or summarizing the points they may read one of them. When the story first broke CNN did report on the Seismic issue question saying that the more believable story was that the accident created the seismic disturbance not vis a versa. I missed the past two days CNN since I was at the Media Giraffe conference.

It is a hell of a story that the mine owner knowingly risked the lives of his workers, esp. if it ties in to the hot button immigration issue.

by carol white on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 12:19:23 PM EST
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A Salon article from nearly three years ago [8/28/2004] covers the plight of dairy workers.  It is a haunting story ...

"We're disposable to them. We're like a machine. I don't think they see us as real people," says Julio Arturo Sepulveda. "I need this job. I feed my family with this job, but it's not right."


by roxy317 on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 12:42:27 PM EST
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It is a broader story than just the mine incident.

I have been reading "FDR" by Jean Smith and it gives a good background on the Progressive movement and how they (including interestingly the reformed Tammany Hall machine in NYC, in the 1920's) fought for issues such as worker safety, special protection for women and children, hours of work, disability insurance et.

With the use of so-called "illegals" these rights can be routinely overlooked because the "illegals" are not in a position to defend their rights.

This is an outrageous abuse of power in itself and it also part of the systematic abrogation of the rights won by the progressive movement and reinforced during the New Deal and later.

by carol white on Thu Aug 09, 2007 at 01:09:03 PM EST
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