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The Comments Section: Flamethrower Optional

by rcs1

This is a reprint of an article I did for Bayosphere April 10th of this year.  I've changed the boring title, but otherwise the article remains the same.


Be sure to check out the links in the article.  They're very entertaining.

citizen journalism :: :: :: buzz-it!
Ah, the comments section.  Home of the Flame Warrior.  It doesn't have to be this way and I'd like to offer a few hints about how to write in a way that expresses your views without challenging the viewpoint of those who disagree with you.

In most cases, arguments are meant to be persuasive.  Take a moment to think about that.  How persuasive is an argument that automatically makes the other person wrong?  Are they going to be receptive to your point of view? What are you really trying to accomplish by directly challenging another person?

When you do challenge another person, are you ever satisfied with the outcome?  Or do you feel vaguely angry that they didn't "get it?"  Isn't it true that the arguments just go on and on and finally move on to another subject?

How do we break out of this cycle?  Here's some hints:

Avoid talking down to people.  If you take a stand on a controversial subject then statements such as "I think . . ." and "it's my opinion that . . ." grease the wheels of discourse and allow people absorb your opinion even if they disagree because hey, it's just your opinion.  Confrontational language does nothing to make people receptive to your point of view.

"I disagree" along with a rational explanation is also recommended.  Of course, you'll be required to provide a rational explanation.  "Rational" in this case is defined as an explanation that would make sense to the person you're disagreeing with.

Which brings up another point:  If you're never wrong, you're always wrong.  You have to give ground occasionally or risk losing the respect of people you're arguing with.  Ask yourself, what do you think of the opinions of other people who can never give an inch?  Do you respect them?  (Hint, the angrier they make you, the more likely it is that you're one of them.)

If you're confronted with people that you don't respect, don't respond.  In a mud fight, everyone looks the same.  I know that it's annoying to let a completely stupid asenine comment stand uncontested, but I guarantee that responding won't make it better.  Unless, of course, you like pointless, never ending arguments.

In conclusion, no matter who you're dealing with, be polite, courteous and respectful of their opinions.  Even if they're attacking yours like a rabid pit bull.  Napoleon said it this way:
"Never interrupt the enemy when he is making a mistake."

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If you don't mind, I am "tagging" it as Citizen Journalism so that it will appear in that section and the front page.

by Cho on Sun May 07, 2006 at 05:23:45 PM EST


by Craig Weiler on Sun May 07, 2006 at 06:46:36 PM EST
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I read several of your pieces on Citizen Journalism over at Bayosphere. Very much enjoyed reading your thoughts on CJ.

by susie dow on Sun May 07, 2006 at 07:54:31 PM EST
The Home of the Flame Warrior is a funny site.  We've been very fortunate to have a great group of folks who keep the conversation pretty civil.  I've been on sites where flame wars became so common I quit visiting the site.  

by standingup on Sun May 07, 2006 at 07:54:39 PM EST
In this, ePluribus is quite a bit different from Bayosphere.  On Bayosphere, there were two people, whom I will name Tireless Rebutter and Centurion, who did a lot to drag down the site.  Because they were so argumentative and acrimonious at times, they induced some quieter members to go on the assault and the battle was on.

They accused the site of of being a home to "lefties" and polarized everyone.  Centurion spouted endless blogs on the same military topics while Tireless Rebutter made sure that no socially concious comment went unrebutted.

I found myself getting into it as well.  But then I stopped and realized that it was all so pointless.  I read people very well and I knew enough to understand that I was dealing with people who always had to be right.

This is so much nicer.  Getting a batch of comments welcoming me to the site would have been unheard of over at Bayosphere.

by Craig Weiler on Mon May 08, 2006 at 12:25:24 AM EST
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