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Barak on NPR, O'Reilly "execute prisoners", Sullivan on torture, Jarvis - Make money?

by rcs1

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) is slotted to tape a segment tonight in Chicago for National Public Radio's weekly quiz show, "Wait Wait . . . Don't Tell Me!"

Barak on NPR

Bill O'Reilly jumps the shark, "O'REILLY: I don't give them any protection. I don't feel sorry for them. In fact, I probably would have ordered their execution if I had the power."

Order their execution

Crooks and Liars has the VIDEO

Andrew Sullivan talks tough,  "...the latest revelations of brutal murder by torture of prisoners by U.S. soldiers was clearly authorized by Bush administration policy."

Andrew Sullivan pegs Bush

Jeff Jarvis's take on the profit motive,  "I am all for citizen journalists making a buck (having made a few as a journalist myself). But...

I wonder whether there's a conflict between the inherently open and immediate world of citizens' media and the closed, exclusive-addicted world of big media: Will citizen journalists decide not to share what they see so they can sell an exclusive to a paper or TV show? If they share their material online first, doesn't that lower the value of what they're selling to media, because it's no longer exclusive."

Citizen Journos: To sell out or not to sell out?


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Thank you for posting these great links!!

by Cho on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 12:39:19 PM EST

Citizen journalist or citizen photojournalist, whoever Jarvis is talking about, is described as either posting online or selling to Scoopt, the new online photo service.

Those who sell to MSM aren't a citizen journalists -- they're freelancers. And open and immediate posting of work can surely still be exclusive; you just have to accept that someone else is going to steal your work and sell it for a buck.

My concept of CJ is doing the work that the MSM cannot or will not do without profit as a motive.

I've been watching this for a few years now and I think that the traditonal journalists are trying like mad to co-opt citizen journalism and/or blogging. They are trying to protect their own hides but at the same time their attempts to reshape and redefine CJ belittle efforts such as our own.

I learned, though, that arguing is pointless, and the best thing to do is just to do it -- citizen journalism, that is.
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by wanderindiana on Wed Aug 17, 2005 at 11:22:57 AM EST

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